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Meeting with God

   Posted by: Vaisnavacharya Chandan Goswami   in Experiences

I born in a spiritual family but I had a pressure to finish my academic studies first before join the spiritual world. My respected Guru Maharaj wanted me to understand materialism first. After I finished my studies, I was ready to begin my spiritual life but I had a big doubt in me. Is there really God exist? I actually was not ready to act as a spiritual master and speak such things which I doubted.

By the mercy of Guru and Gaurang, I had chosen CHANTING as a tool to find God. I started to do practice. One should remember so many things for chanting, such as Aasan, Jap Mala, concentration, tilak, mantra, etc. If one sits on the ground (without aasan) for chanting get sadness in result, on wood he would get misfortune, on bamboo he would loss his family, on stone he would get sick, on grass he would get dis fame, on leaf aasan his mind would distract and on the cloth aasan he will loose the fruit of his jap. (Brahmand Purana) One should use proper aasan such as woolen, kusa, etc

We are not allowed to chant when we are engaged in other works. I find many devotees who walk with the vedic tool (Jap mala) on their necks or chant mantras while walking here and there. They all are committing offenses. While shoes are on, they are touching Jap Mala. Is that vedic tool or a toy? Why are you making it impure? Why don’t you enter in the temple with shoes on? God wants to see your devotion not body , cloths and shoes. Right? 108 beads of mala is a vedic tool. We are not even supposed to shake our bead bag while chanting. Do you remember any sage photograph who is chanting and his hand which is holding bead bag, on one ‘T’ shape wooden stick? Have you ever thought why did he use that? Lord says, if you move your bead bag, you would loose the fruit of your jap. In the history of Sanatan religion, not a single guru walked with his Jap Mala here and there or chanted. We are supposed to touch that after take the bath/shower, with clean cloths, sitting on a one place for chanting. 27 beads of mala is allowed to use for daily chanting and by that mala we can walk here and there. It is not even allowed in our religion. It is actually allowed in every religion.

Jewish chants on 27 rosemary beads mala, Sikh chants on 27 iron beads mala, Buddh monks chants on 27 beads, Hindus chant on 27 beads, Muslims chant on 27 beads. Chanting is a science. How can we forget the time? It is a major factor. According to scriptures, if we are going to wear new cloths, to put bangles, to buy new land, to give money to someone, to buy or sell property, to start a new business, to buy a vehicle, wedding, yagya, chanting etc everything has a particular time. Eventually, there are different effects if we start something new on different timings. Good and bad also. All achrayas never forget to suggest good timings to their followers. I personally have tried all timings upon me to check their effects before become a spiritual master. By some timing I have seen some sudden deaths of my dear ones because I started puja on wrong moment.  In fact, devotees those who know me have seen me how physically sick I used to be. Because I had done some chanting during bad times which affects body. There are timings of everything, if we start our chanting or puja for some motive. Such thing happens. No one can stop them to happen. Time is the major factor. Some devotees say, Brahm Muhurat is always good to start chanting. It is not true, not a single scripture proves that.

Some devotees do their routine japs everyday. Then they stop it for 10-15 days and start it again when they find time. It is wrong. Absolutely wrong. Because of such things they survive in their devotional life.

Sometimes devotee asks me, In gaudiyas we don’t have such rules. I always say, Gaudiya follow each and every rule. In whole Caitanya Charitamrta or in any scripture it is not written that one should chant on the Jap Mala while he walks here and there. Very clearly it is written, Chant holy name of Lord. Nowhere in the portraits of Caitanya Mahaprabhu or any achraya you can find Bead Bag on their hands while they were walking or doing some work. One can do chanting without bead bag also. There is a difference in Harinaam and Mahamantra. Harinaam is Harinaam when you chant without bead bag but it converts into a mahamantra when you use vedic tool (Jap Mala). One starts to fall down while he chants without rules. Shri Caitanya Mahaprabhu asked us to chant harinaam. In the history of Gaudiya sampradaya any achraya (64 mahants & all goswamis) never walked with their bead bags. By Jap Mala we connect ourselves with God. It needs full concentration. On top of that, we are not allowed to do South facing while we are chanting. In the artha ved and Garuda Puran it is prohibited for Vaishnavs. Yam is the God of south side.

Some devotees ask me, is there any need of such rules? God see devotion only. Lets take a example, there is a one student who is studying in school. He is genius but he breaks all rules. Would you call him perfect? If you would break rules then definitely you would pay for them. On the other side, there is another student, who is genius and disciplined. He would be known as perfect student. Did I or any other human being make these rules? NO. in many cases, Lord Krsn gave these rules to His devotees. Chanting and other pujas need devotion as well as discipline. We can’t break rules on the sake of devotion.

Many female devotees chant on the japmala when they are on their monthly cycle.  They are committing big offense. Story comes in Padma Puran of Lord Krsn and Yudhistar where Lord Krsn said, “Those women will go to Hell and suffer a lot.” Every other Smriti (law books of sanatan dharma) stop them. Not even in our religion our Lords stop. Bible reveals the same fact as well as Quran. Women are not even allowed to visit temples. In Indian temples, you can find one specialty. Most of all temple has one window or door in front of the deity room, from there women who are  on their cycle and Sudra can take darshan without entering the temple. Now question arise, how will they do their routine jap? If they are alone then how would they do worship of their lords. In such circumstances, they can call any other devotee to take care of those deities or they can ask someone to put dry fruits in front the Gods and ask them to eat until they are not cleaned. During their period they are not allowed to touch japmala or sit on the aasan or do any kind of service of God. They can chant without japmala. After cycle they must cover up those rounds which were missed during that time.

If you are chanting on japmala any mantra even Mahamantra also, you should recite mahamantra with proper pronunciation. NO KRSNA. only KRSN. Lord’s name is not KRSNA. Every scripture reveal only KRSN not KRSNA. In fact KRSNA is a name of Shani dev (Saturn). NO RAMA. Chant simply RAM. My name is Chandan Goswami, it is a male name. If someone starts to call me CHANDANA which is female name, how would I feel? We have one Achraya Shri Roop Goswami. Devotees call him RupA Goswami which is again a female name. Are you committing offense? If we change the gender of your name, how would you feel? We all know  the importance of Tilak and shikha (ponytail) as well.

There are a lot to do when one go for chanting. I tried to follow each and every rule according to scriptures to find God. After did my first Sadhna of life. One morning, I was on the roof and looking at the Sun. For a while I forget everything and I lose my consciousness and all of a sudden a heavy rainfall came. I saw in my super consciousness that a big light, which was full of blue and golden colours like a sun in the river, along with some structure, came in front of me. I never forget that light and he told me that your birth is more useful if you follow the path of God. He said “I am always with you from now onwards and will guide you from time to time” and when my conscious returned back, after 15 minutes, I found not even a single drop of water around me. After this, I got a surprised occasion to read Srimad Bhagwatam and feel God came in a similar manner many times.

The important words of such light and structure are “aim of my life”. After this happening (now every second I feel spiritual experiences but it was my turning point) my life is totally turned and changed towards Spiritual Bhakti and aim is to serve the world without any self interest. Now by God High Command’s grace I am having real experience of Bhakti Vibration and meditation last many years. I must say I’m lucky to have Him in my life but Still a part of me wants to see His naughty lilas. Alas! Krsn, I want to be a witness of your lilas, when will you allow this brijwasi? I want to see that naughty smile which steals everyone’s conciousness. I want to see how you serve our Radharani. I want to see how do you play with brijwasis. Why my Lord always go on the silent mode when I ask such questions? I only find a smile on His face. Is He teasing me? :(

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28 comments so far

ratika
 1 

tis post is js awsm swami ji…. got to know a number of things from ur post..thanx a lot swami ji. hare krishna

May 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 am
shreya
 2 

radhe radhe!! dandvat pranam!!! yup!! he is teasing u..he would love to play with brijvasi”s nd also enjoy to tease them b”coz my lord love them a lot.i wish v.soon u”ll become witness of his evernew lilas. nd showers ur blessings on us like ths to share ur incredible moments….
jai radhe!!!

May 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Kumush Chopra
 3 

Radhe Radhe!
Looking forward for more meaningful blogs like this..

May 26th, 2009 at 8:35 am
dasanudas
 4 

radhe radhe
can you pls tell us then the proper rules and regulations for chanting the mahamantra and at what times we should do jaap. hari hari!!

May 26th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Chandan Goswami
 5 

There are many rules. I have written most of all here. One should put ghee lamp during his chanting time. (Because we make Agni dev our witness of chanting) Well, about the timing. If someone is going to start Mahamantra first time after few days or months or first time in life. He must ask Achraya to find the good time for him to start the mantra. After starting that mantra from that particular time period. From the next day, he can chant anytime. Then no limitation of timing.

May 26th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
 6 

Dear Swamiji,
Jai Shri Krishna got really inspired by your article please keep on posting .. please also give instances about .. experiencing the lord.

May 29th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Chandan Goswami
 7 

There are always different instances. One can’t explain. It is all His mahima.

May 29th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Rashmi
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Hare Krishna Chandanji,
Thank you very much for posting your experiences. Very Grateful that you take the time to share bhakti with all those you are in touch with. What you shared are in fact true things regarding the rules. I have some few words. Before trying to follow rules, if one develops some taste for gods names, then that is first step. If I get focused on all the rules and offenses, I might get afraid to even start doing Jaap. I might lost interest due to the strictness. But once I really get appreciation and tiny bit of understanding of bhakti path, after few years I might get some blessings and strength to follow all rules. It depends on individual level and blessings of Lord on each soul, on their path of bhakti. Ultimately, Lord says, if one takes to path of bhakti, He preserves what one has, and carries what one lacks. It is the Intention that is more important in my view. Aspiring always to be servant of servant of Vaishnavs,
With gratitude, Rashmi

June 1st, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Chandan Goswami
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Dear Rashmi ji
Radhe Radhe!!

Everyone have their different views. But we are not authorised to break rules with such plea that rules can stop our Jaap. Is our love for God is that weak that His made rules can stop us? One needs to do chanting (without beads), if he/she is unable to follow rules. Best example is Hanumaan ji. Did Hanumaan ji have bead bag? He also used to chant without bead bags. Caitanya Mahaprabhu also suggested us for that chanting (harinaam). Chanting without beads need your devotion as well as dedication. There are no rules if you are chanting without bead bag.

June 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Pawan Goswami
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Radhe Radhe !!

I really appriciate your views in the blog and i am reaaly happy to see such a fantastic web site on our very own Radha ramanji temple . I too belongs to the temple .

Pawan Goswami

June 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 am
Pritesh
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Dear Chandan Goswami Prabhu

Thank you for sharing this wonderful blog glorifying the chanting of the holy names! The holy names are the greatest benediction to us all and your blog has helped me to try and focus and improve my own chanting!

I am living in London and I’ve been reading your blogs when I get the chance and they are great! I can understand that you want to help others improve their own chanting and by sharing our understandings we can achieve this. But I wanted to share some of my understands around chanting the holy names based on the teachings of His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. I know that you are very blessed being born into such a wonderful Vaishanava family and that I have no right to try and teach a Vrajvasi like yourself but some of the points you highlighted in your blog made me compelled to want to share my own understandings with you (so hopefully we can learn from each other) and others that also read your blog. Below I’m highlighting some of them:

You wrote: “In the history of Gaudiya sampradaya any achraya (64 mahants & all goswamis) never walked with their bead bags.”

I can confirm that Srila Prabhupada, who is from the same Gaudiya sampradaya, often walked while chanting on his japa beads. And Srila Prabhupada is no ordinary devotee - he is the pure devotee that spread the Hare Krishna mantra all over the world - fulfilling Lord Caitanya’s prophecy that the chanting of Hare Krishna maha-mantra will spread to every country around the world. Because of Srila Prabhupada’s mercy thousands of new devotees all around the world are still learning about the maha-mantra even today! So I do not see how you can say that no acharaya has never walked with their bead bags.

Also I agree with Rashimi ji regarding following the rules and regulations at the start of chanting japa - surely when you started chanting japa you did not first find out every single rule and regulation before starting chanting the hare Krishna mantra? Srila Prabhupada has said regarding this matter: “Of course, there are some rules and regulations for chanting, but in the beginning we haven’t got to observe those rules and regulation at the present. First of all let us have the taste for chanting; then we shall be little careful that the rules and regulations are followed. In the beginning, if we stick up to the… Rules and regulations are subordinate, subordinate thing. Just like you enter into an office. You are appointed in some office to work. So on the very first day, you do not know all the rules and regulations. But because you do not know all the rules and regulation, that does not mean that you cannot be appointed. First of all let yourself be appointed. Now, working, working, yourself you will know all the rules and regulations’. And this makes sense. Once we start chanting and develop a taste for it we can work towards improving our chanting and following the rules to help pureify our chanting.

Also the very fact that people are chanting Lord Krishna’s holy name is to be encouraged and if we tell them straight away - oh you have to follow this rule and you are not following that rule - will they continue to chant at all? Slowly they will learn to follow the rules.

You also mentioned: “We are not allowed to chant when we are engaged in other works”

I 100% agree with you on this point - its very difficult to concentrate on the maha-mantra if we are engaged in other work while we chant such as reading a religious book, listening to a class lecture or talking with others. Our mind has to concentrate on the sounds of the maha-mantra.

Also you mentioned:

“If you are chanting on japmala any mantra even Mahamantra also, you should recite mahamantra with proper pronunciation. NO KRSNA. only KRSN. Lord’s name is not KRSNA. Every scripture reveal only KRSN not KRSNA.”

Firstly, the maha-mantra is written in many places as ‘Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare’ it is not written ‘Hare Krsn, Hare Krsn, Krsn Krsn, Hare Hare’.

I can understand that many people have mis-understanding as to why ISKCON devotees spell Lord Krishna’s name KRSNA - the name KSRNA is spelt like that with three dots underneath the letters ‘R’, ‘S’ and ‘N’ and this is used to help western devotees to pronounce KRISHNA. This is because Sanskrit word pronunciation is very different to English (and other languages) so Srila Prabhupadas book uses “Diacritic” marks to represent Sanskrit syllables to make the pronunciation clear and to help pronounce each Sanskrit syllable properly.

Also in many Sanskrit verses Lord Krishna’s name is pronounced ‘KRISHNA’. For example:
This verse from the Brahma Samhita describes the nature of Sri Krishna. The Brahma Samhita is Lord Brahma’s (the creator of this universe) treatise on Krsna and the spiritual world.

ishvaraha parama krishna
sac-chid-ananda-vigraha
anadir adi govindaha
sarva-karana-karanam

Translation:

Krsna who is known as Govinda is the Supreme Godhead.
He has an eternal, blissful, spiritual body.
He is the origin of all. He has no other origin
and He is the prime cause of all causes.

Also this thinking that ‘they are pronouncing the Lords name wrong’ is not very good thinking. Even in Srimad Bhagavatam we find this verse:

The Bhagavatam (6.2.14) points out that even if one chants the holy names neglectfully, jokingly, or simply for entertainment, the holy names are nonetheless effective enough to free the person from unlimited sins, just as a powerful medicine is effective whether a patient who takes it understands it or not. The verse is here:

sāńketyaḿ pārihāsyaḿ vā
stobhaḿ helanam eva vā
vaikuṇṭha-nāma-grahaṇam
aśeṣāgha-haraḿ viduḥ

One who chants the holy name of the Lord is immediately freed from the reactions of unlimited sins, even if he chants indirectly [to indicate something else], jokingly, for musical entertainment, or even neglectfully. This is accepted by all the learned scholars of the scriptures.

So the main thing is to encourage everyone to take up the process of chanting Hare Krishna - and chanting on japa is very effective. Afterwards they can follow the rules and regulations (such as being attentive, having faith in the holy names, not committing sins thinking that the chanting will purify the sin etc) but many rules you mentioned are not exactly ‘rules’.

Even Lord Chaitanya mentions in his Siksastakam: “there are no hard and fast rules one can chant anytime and at any place”. One main point that Mahaprabhu stressed is the attitude while chanting:
trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna
amanina manadena kirtaniya sada hari
(Siksastaka 3)
“One should chant the holy name of the Lord in a humble state of mind, thinking oneself lower than the straw on the street, being more tolerant than a tree and always ready to offer all respects to others. In such a state of mind one can chant the holy name of the Lord constantly.”

Of course I agree with you that chanting on japa one has to follow some rules - like being attentive while chanting. There are ten main rules we ISKCON devotees try to follow here is a link:

http://www.harekrsna.com/practice/sadhana/morning/japa/offenses.htm

Another thing you mentioned is about Brahma Muhrat:

You say: “Some devotees say, Brahm Muhurat is always good to start chanting. It is not true, not a single scripture proves that.”

Brahma-Muhurta is mentioned in different scriptures - it is a very auspicious time in the day. Srila Prabhupada has stated in Srimad Bhagavatam (3.20.46)
“During this brāhma-muhūrta, spiritual activities are recommended. Spiritual activities performed early in the morning have a greater effect than in any other part of the day.”
So although chanting is not mentioned here - chanting is an important part of everyone’s spiritual activities and so it is very good to chant in the early morning Brahma-Murat time and this should be encouraged! In other places the glories of Brahma-Muhurta is mentioned:

Garga-samhita 4.8.19 states:
eka-varam- jalam- pitva dhauta-vastro ‘ti-nirmalah
brahme muhurta utthaya caikadasyam- harim- natah
“During ekadasi one should be pure-hearted and very clean, wear clean garments, drink water only once, rise during brahma-muhurta, and bow down to Lord Krsna”

Garga-samhita 8.10.7 also says:
brahme muhurte cotthaya rama-krsneti ca bruvan
natva gurum bhuvam caiva tato bhumyam padam nyaset
“One should rise at brahma-muhurta, chant the holy names of Lord Krsna and Lord Balarama, and bow down before one’s guru. Only then should one place his feet on the ground.”

Sorry if my points sound small I am not trying to show that I am more advanced than you Chandan Prabhu - I am not! - I have a lot of respect for you and your kind father - who I met at the ISKCON Soho Street temple here in London a long time ago - he was giving a really nice class/talk about Shri Radha-Raman temple and Janmastami celebrations! I think the main point I am trying to make is we should be very very happy when we see other people chanting the Hare Krishna maha-mantra - not think ‘oh he is not following this rule’ or ‘oh he is walking here and there and that is not allowed!’ We should be happy - oh this person is trying to reach Shri Krishna - let me encourage him! I have read that all rules and regulations are there to help us ‘always remember Shri Krishna and never forget Him’.

Because chanting is the only way we can approach Shri Krishna and Srimati Radharani. Also once again trying to give you my understandings on this matter has given me more info about how I can improve my own chanting - so I thank you for this very much. Please bless me so I can again one day return to Shri Vrindavan dham.

Haribol. Pritesh

July 14th, 2009 at 5:19 am
saptarishi
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hare krsn,dandavat pranam
excellent article, i have been chanting MAHA MANTRa for 4 years now, i didn’t know of the rules like that chanting while facing the south or chanting while walking are non-effective,thank u for correcting my mistakes,please tell me more rules,,i chant 16 rounds a day,,is that sufficient????,and please mention other rules of chanting,with which i can please LALA JI even more,,apart from brahma muhurta which are the other auspicious moments of chanting MAHAMANTRA

July 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Chandan Goswami
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Dear Pritesh ji
Radhe Radhe!!

Nice to hear your thoughts, Let me start to give answers one by one. ISKCON and Gaudiya Maths connect themselves with Gaudiya Sampraday. Neither Gaudiya Sampraday nor any Achraya of Gaudiya Sampraday has approved them till now. We don’t consider Sri Prabhupad ji as an Achraya of Gaudiya Sampraday. Because of this, none of Gaudiya Achraya attends any program of ISKCON and Gaudiya Maths. Neither they invite.
ISKCON has a Gaudiya Siksha parampara not diksha parampara.
Click on this link to find this out: http://www.romapadaswami.com/?q=node/287
Answer of Swami Romapada is wrong. On the one hand, we know one can make so many Siksha gurus in life. Guru can be an animal, insects, any human, and any person from any Sampraday. After get Siksha from any guru, we cannot connect ourselves with that Siksha guru’s Sampraday.

Ask Shri Jay Laxman prabhu from Soho Street temple, he is studying Sanskrit, he can tell you either Krishna or KrishN are written in those shloks.

Regarding Brahm Muhurat, I wanted to prove, it is not compulsory to chant in Brahm Muhurat only. I know the glory of Brahm Muhurat. Even your shloks doesn’t prove if it compulsory to chant during that time only. In Garg Samhita, 8.10 chapter, the procedure of Lord Balram worship is written.

The Bhagavatam (6.2.14) and other Sanskrit verse, which you have quoted here, have nothing to do with rules of chanting on Japmala. Because names of Lord can be spoken in any form, is acceptable but wrong pronunciation during the Jap, is absolutely wrong. This is what I wanted to show.

As you mentioned here first, one have to join office, slowly he will start to follow rules of the company.
Many companies even the armies of every country give training to newcomers before they join companies and org. Because only one new worker can change the environment of the company on this plea that he is new and he doesn’t know rules and all. In many offices, for certain time of period newcomer is free from laws of company. How many devotees are chanting on Japmala last so many years? When will their trial finish?
According to Sanatan Dharm, One should understand all rules before doing something. Because it is like a fire, one mistake can burn oneself. It is not a sport that newcomer will understand rules after playing that game.

One can find out other rules of chanting in Hari Bhakti Vilas, which is very authentic scripture of Gaudiyas.

Pritesh ji, I hope this insignificant devotee provided you all needed information.

July 16th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Pritesh
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Dear Chandan Prabhu,

Radha Radha!

Thank you for your response. It was very interesting to read.

That’s correct - ISKCON is another branch of the Gaudiya Sampraday - we are coming down from Srila Rupa Goswami and the Radha-Raman Temple Goswamis are coming down from Srila Gopala Bhatta Goswami. So because the branches are different the Acharayas in both branches are also different. Also you are correct that ISKCON has a siksha parampara but it also does involve taking formal diksha but more emphasis is always on the Siksha (receiving transcendental knowledge). We also take Shiksha from Srila Prabhupada’s disciples but the main authority and primary shiksa is taken from Srila Prabhupada because he is the Founder-Archaraya of ISKCON.

I don’t know Jay Lakshman prabhu! But Srila Prabhupada teached to chant Hare ‘Krishna’ and he explains “You can pronounce Krsna in any way. For instance, K‑r‑i‑s‑h‑n‑a. You can pronounce Krsna in any way. Niyamitah smarane na kalah. No hard and fast rules, no limits.’ (Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhus teaching in Siksastakam)
Also I understand that Shri Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared in Mayapur (in Bengal) and Srila Prabhupada was also from near there (Calcutta) so their pronunciation is Bengali influenced. I also understand that many South Indian’s also pronounce the Lord’s name as ‘Krishn’ - like yourself. Also Shri Gopal Bhatta Goswami is also from Sri Rangam (south India) so this may be the reason why perhaps there is some different pronunciation. But I feel as Srila Prabhupada points out it is ok to pronounce both ways. Also I am from Gujarat state and many people from Gujarat are Vaishnavas (because Lord Krishna lived in Dvarka which is in Gujarat state) and they also always pronounce as ‘Krishna’ not Krishn. Vallabha Archarya sampraday also pronounce as ‘Krishna’ too.

Thanks for your kind help! Haribol!
Pritesh

July 21st, 2009 at 5:41 am
Chandan Goswami
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Dear Pritesh ji
Radhe Radhe!!

ISKCON is a independent society. Branch means a part which is related to the tree. In my blog I have already mentioned about Gaudiya Sampradya affiliated branches. 64 achrayas and 6 goswamis branches are the main branches of Gaudiyas and in 6 Goswamis branches, Shri Roop Goswami and Shri Gopal Bhatt Goswami branches are also there.
I know ISKCON and other Gaudiya Maths teach from Gaudiya books but they are not affiliated from us.
Sri Prabhupadji made so many sansaysi gurus if any sanyasi or any disciple open up new society and propagate Sri Prabhupad ji’s teaching. It won’t make his society related to ISKCON. In such a manner I have specified the difference of Gaudiya Sampradaya and ISKCON.
I realised that you don’t know about Shri Radharaman Temple history aswell. None of the Goswami of Shri Radharaman Temple belongs to South India. Our Ancestor was Shri Shandilya Muni who was the Guru of Maa Yashoda, Nand Baba and all brijwasis. Moreover, I don’t think you have got me on this pronunciation thing. You are talking about something which has nothing to do with chanting rules. I eventually heard few tapes of Sri Prabhupad when he taught his followers to chant Mahamantra on tulsi beads, and He correctly pronounced the mantra. Yes, it is true in his lectures and bhajans he pronounced Krishna but in mantra he always spoke KrishN. many gurus and achrayas from different sampradayas are frequent readers of my blog. Everybody understand what I’m trying to teach. In general we pronounce Krishna but on tulsi beads we speak every mantra of KrishN as KrishN only.

When I was finding any audio of Mahamantra, I just found out this website http://nitaai.net/ff.html
On the background of this website, one swami reciting KrishN. I hope it would help you to understand my words.

BG 16.23: He who discards scriptural injunctions and acts according to his own whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme destination.

BG 16.24: One should therefore understand what is duty and what is not duty by the regulations of the scriptures. Knowing such rules and regulations, one should act so that he may gradually be elevated.

Jai Radharaman!

July 21st, 2009 at 8:32 am
Pritesh
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Dear Chandan Goswami Prabhu,

Radhe Radhe!

Thank you for your kind reply and trying to help me to understand. I had a listen to your link regarding the Mahamantra pronunciation!

Yes this is the same way we chant the Mahamantra on our beads - the same pronunciation as on this website you showed me: http://nitaai.net/ff.html (except we don’t chant “Nityaananda, Gauraanga” at the beginning when chanting on beads/doing Japa)

This devotee chanting on this website is making the same pronunciation as me (and how most of ISKCON members pronounce the Mahamantra while chanting on beads) so I do not understand where the confusion comes from! We are chanting the same! Also on this website the devotee has clearly written the Mahamantra: “Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare” (I have copied and pasted this from the link above).

I think I understand the confusion we had now - basically during kirtana we pronounce ‘Haaare Krishnaaa Haaare Krishnaaa etc’ and you are correct that during Japa we pronounce short word (’Krishna’ or ‘KrishN’)

Also another reason why the confusion begin between us was simply because in your blog you wrote this:

“NO KRSNA. only KRSN. Lord’s name is not KRSNA. Every scripture reveal only KRSN not KRSNA. In fact KRSNA is a name of Shani dev (Saturn).”

It was to clear up this misunderstanding. And now you have accepted because you have stated in the reply above that “In general we pronounce Krishna but on tulsi beads we speak every mantra of KrishN as KrishN only.”

Here is a video of Srila Prabhupada chanting on japa - pronouncing ‘Krishna’:

http://www.vedaveda.com/gitagita/en/prabhupada/142.html

Also if you are interested - there are many nice videos of Srila Prabhupada lecturing all around the world here:

http://www.vedaveda.com/gitagita/en/prabhupada/prabhupada.html

And you are correct that ISKCON is a independent society from the other branches.

I understand that the Goswamis of the Shri Radharaman temple themselves are not from South India but I had read that Srila Gopala Bhatta Goswami was from Sri Rangam (south india) - and I was just trying to explain why perhaps the pronunciation of ‘Krishna’ could be slightly different between us. But as I have discussed above, we know now that we are pronouncing the Lords name the same.

Thank you kindly Chandan Goswami Prabhu for the trouble you took in trying to help me understand. All glories to the Mahamantra!

Haribol.
Pritesh

July 22nd, 2009 at 4:53 am
sandeep
 17 

hari hari
chandan goswami ji,
i have few questions like
who is the Source of all incarnation , do Lord krishn is a incarnation of lord vishnu or lord visnu is a expansion of lord krishn, why i am asking is from the child hood i heard the story that lord krishna is a avatar of lord vishnu but in brahma samhita , it says krishna is a suprime lord and vishnu is expanded from it as krnodakshayi vishu, garbhodakshayi vishu and shirodakshayi vishnu.. please explain what is right , and u said in beginning that u see a blue light in u r unconsiousness after u r first sadhna , can i have your mercy and let me know what is the way or method to do the sadhna? as in so many quotes i have hear about the sadhna . as narad ji also done dome sadhna where he first time hear the voice of God and after that he put is full life in that please be merciful on me as i want to know what is the sadhna which can show me the light of god,we also can proceed in a same as u , naradji proceed

hari hari

August 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Chandan Goswami
 18 

Dear Sandeep
Radhe Radhe!!
Sadhna is not very simple and all it needs your full time dedication. I want to know spiritual qualification first. Later only I can decide anything. For your first question, I am writing one blog. Please read that.

August 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
sandeep
 19 

radhe radhe mahraj
first of al i would like to say thanks u are the first one who gave a details from all literature as till today people whom i ask these question give the view from there sampradaya and says rest of the sampraday is not realized …
mahraj from the qualification point of view i am not at all on the stage as a big vaisnava and you recides, i am a very small but trying to know the truth and exepriance, as u said on u r blog there are so many puranas and litrature which says diffrent things , then maharaj in one sence thay all are confused as non of them has a same realisation then how would you belive on any one of it, as we cannot see any proof of these theory and its even hard to belive on one of them . how we would say any of them right and dedicate your life ..? please lite on it ,

August 25th, 2009 at 8:43 am
sandeep
 20 

and second thing why ask u for the sadhna is , when i read this blog metting with god , u wrote that you got realisation and he ask you to go in same direction , we are in states and we don’t have any bonafide spritual master who can guide me, so i ask you mahraj , and with out realisation or experience it hard to process in any direction , just based on literature which it self has so many distinct variations and diffrences , and at the last as you ask for my spiritual qualification , if you could give me your any of the personal contact i would write it you that what i am doing in may day to day life ,,,please be merciful and show the direction

August 25th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Chandan Goswami
 21 

Dear Sandeep

write me email at innersmile108@gmail.com

August 26th, 2009 at 5:22 am
Durga Basnet
 22 

Chandan Goswami ji,

Hare Krishna !

Please permit me to say some thing and feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

“We don’t consider Sri Prabhupad ji as an Achraya of Gaudiya Sampraday. Because of this, none of Gaudiya Achraya attends any program of ISKCON and Gaudiya Maths.”

Regarding the above statements, Srila Prabhupada was a dedicated servant of the Lord. When he was in India, he single handedly wrote, published and sold the copies of Back to Godhead and some Srimadbhagawatam. He sacrificed his own incomes and even family for the sake of we fallen souls all over the world. He dedicated himself for the service of Guru and Gauranga. At the ripe age of his life, he came to America and in 12 years duration he wrote more than 60 books on Krishna and Gaudiya Vaishnava philosophy, in that 12 years he initiated 4000 devotees, opened more than 100 temples all over the world, circled the world many times preaching the Krishna consciousness.

He spread the message of Lord Caitanya, six goswamis, and all the Gurus like Srila Bhakti Vinod Thakur, Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada, etc.

I would not see any problem on calling such a person an Acharya.

Secondly, on the following statement:

Sri Prabhupadji made so many sansaysi gurus if any sanyasi or any disciple open up new society and propagate Sri Prabhupad ji’s teaching. It won’t make his society related to ISKCON.

Well, Srila Prabhupada did not form ISKCON for his popularity but he needed one organisation to be registered so that it will be easier to take the KC movement further. Without a proper name and organisation, how could he establish and manage more than 100 temples all over the world?

I see could see nothing wrong in the name International Society for Krishna Consciousness and the way ISKCON is working spreading Krishna’s message all over the world. It is a miracle that even non-hindu people all over the world, who were engaged in meat eating and illicit sex and gambling, are being sattvic and Krishna devotees. In order to become popular, Srila prabhupada never allowed to be lenient. He clearly said things like no illicit sex (not even within marriage other than for the purpose of recreation), no intoxication, no gambling, etc.

What Srila Prabhupada did should make every Indian and every servant of the Lord feel proud. He was the star, in fact.

****Regarding the beads not to be taken by the women during their periods, how about the neck bead (Kanthi Mala)? How would it be differentiated between the wearing of Tulsi beads all the time and not using the Tulsi beads while chanting during periods?

Your humble servant.
Durga

October 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Chandan Goswami
 23 

Dear Durga Basnet
Radhe Radhe!!

Happy Goverdhan Puja!

It is really nice to read your comment. There are few points which i ask you to understand. I have not criticized Sri Prabhupad and his work for Shri Radha & Krishn. Regarding your first point of an “Acharya” I used “Gaudiya Acharya” in my comment. I nowhere denied that he is not an Acharya. I only denied that He is not an Acharya of Gaudiya Sampradaya. In all of his books you can read this also very nicely, “A founder Acharya of ISKCON” As it is a reality ISKCON never write in their book “ISKCON and Gaudiya Acharya”

In my second statement “Sri Prabhupadji made so many sansaysi gurus if any sanyasi or any disciple open up new society and propagate Sri Prabhupad ji’s teaching. It won’t make his society related to ISKCON.” I again nowhere spoke against about Shri Prabhupad mission. All I had mentioned there was, by propagating Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Six Goswamis and scriptures of Gaudiyas doesn’t make Him Gaduiya Sampradaya Acharya. So to explain that I wrote my second comment as an example to understand. There are so many ritviks, and Gaduiya Maths and many ISKCON followers had/have left ISKCON but preaching Prabhupad books. But technically they are not a part of ISKCON. They are the part of Prabhupad only and ISKCON gurus also don’t allow them preach in there centers. Right? Because they are not a part of ISKCON. In a same way, I explained why Sri Prabhupad is not an Acharya of Gaduiya Sampraday. But I must say he did the very great job and because of him only Westerners are understanding our Hinduism.

I had all of this conversation with Pritesh. And He understood everything. I guess, maybe my English was very inconveniencing for you to understand what actually I really meant in my comments. I didn’t criticize anyone.

Regarding the answer of your question. women can keep their tulsi mala on their neck but they are not allowed to do any worship or service to Lord during their period time. In Bhavisya Puran there is a discussion between Lord Shri Krishn and Pandav Yudhistir. Yudhistir asked this question, In answer of that Lord Krishn said, For women it is prohibited to do any service and worship. Moreover, if anyone do, there is a prayer in the Puran which woman have to recite. All Smritis also stop women to serve also during that time. Bible and Quran also reveal the same.
They are not even allowed to enter in the temple. In India, mostly every temple has a special door or window outside for those women to take darshan without entering in the temple.

They can only recite Lord’s name without beads as much as they can. And I guess, it is the very simple way to reach God in this Kaliyug. Meera Bai never roam around with Tulsi Beads. She just chanted Lords name without beads to please Lord.

October 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Chandan Goswami
 24 

Tulsi beads around the neck shows that we are praying and offering ourselves on the Lotus feet of Lord Krishn to accept us. Because He accepts everything which we offer Him with Love and Tulsi. This is the main reason to wear Tulsi mala around our neck. On the day of Diksha, Guru make us a servant of Krishn and give us the mantra to please Lord by love. So, Technically both beads has a different purposes.

October 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Chandan Goswami
 25 

Why women are prohibited and why do they get the period every month? Why women are impure during that time. In Bhavishya Puran, Lord Krishn revealed the story, In a short I am explaining you here, This story is connected to Indra. Women mensis is actually a fruit of Indra’s bad karma. Women are paying half of his bad karma fruit. Because Indra killed someone, so get rid of that, he was approaching everyone. Lastly women accepted his begging as they are very soft from heart. So because of that women are uncleaned during their period times because they pay for Indra’s bad karma (killing) this is why they are not allowed to do any worship or service. This story was said by Lord Shri Krishn in that Puran.

October 18th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Durg Basnet
 26 

Hare Krishna, Goswami Maharaj,
Please accept my humble obeisances.

I really loved your comments. I hope, one day you will also mercifully give us a blog on how to improve chanting. My chanting is very bad, it lacks taste and love for their Lordships and I am more eager to finish my rounds.

PLEASE KINDLY PRAY FOR ME TO SRI RADHA RAMAN JI SO THAT I CAN BE A BIT CLOSER TO KRISHNA TO SERVE HIM MORE.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR THE OFFENCE OF REQUESTING YOU FOR MY OWN BENEFIT.

Your humble servant,
Durga Basnet

October 19th, 2009 at 9:48 am
dolly
 27 

i am a female devotee of krishna consciousnees.I have not taken diksha from a guruji.how many rounds or strands of tulsi mala should wear.during monthly periods should a women take off the tulsi mala or what are the oter options and recomendations as per vedas,shastras and by srila prabhu pada ji.please clear my doubts as iam in a great confusion.

January 24th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Vaisnavacharya Chandan Goswami
 28 

If you read all comments then you can get your answers. As I am not a part of ISKCON. I don’t know what rules Shri Prabhupad ji has given to his society.

January 25th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

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